The difference between E-Leadership and S-Leadership with guest Wanda Wallace
We may find comfort in being experts in our fields, but what does it take to grow more and become a spanning leader? Listen to this podcast here
Dr. Wanda T. Wallace is a managing partner of Leadership Forum. She coaches, facilitates, and speaks on improving leadership through better conversations. She hosts the weekly radio show and podcast “Out of the Comfort Zone” and is the author of You Can’t Know It All: Leading in the Age of Deep Expertise.
In this episode, Wanda shares the difference between E-Leadership from S-Leadership. She also talks about how you can influence more people by adding more value to your workplace by growing into an S-Leader.
What you will learn from this episode:
Understand what are the three differences between being an E-Leader and an S-Leader
Find out how can you discover your value and be confident about bringing it to the workplace
Learn what the three powerful and life-changing core questions you should ask yourself
“As an expert leader, I can do the work of anybody on my team. That means I can double-check the work. As a spanning leader, I cannot do the work of my team. I do have to trust them to do the job.”– Wanda T. Wallace
Topics Covered:
01:24 – Wanda shares what she does and how she helps her clients
02:23 – What is the difference between E-Leaders and S-Leaders
04:50 – What are the differences in competency or skills between the two roles, the E-Leadership, and the S-Leaderships
06:41 – Wanda talks about what you can do to become a Spanning Leader if you are more of an Expert Leader
08:06 – What can you do to externally validate the value you intend to add to your work
10:25 – How can you be confident about the value that you are adding to your work and team
11:39 – Why is it often hard for women to transition from E-Leadership to S-Leadership
12:39 – Wanda shares the importance of learning how to delegate work instead of ditching and deserting
13:58 – How can you influence change in your workplace by persuading your senior-most leaders?
15:47 – What can companies do to ease that leadership transition for women
17:29 – What are the three powerful core questions you should ask yourself
18:27 – Q: How do you work through the nervousness, the anxiety, and the fears that are there? A: One is to start to recognize the emotion that you’re feeling. Name that emotion. Write about that emotion.
Key Takeaways:
“As a Spanning Leader, I cannot do the work of my team. I do have to trust them to do the job.” – Wanda Wallace
“Understanding that value is the number one thing that you’ve got to do.” – Wanda Wallace
“If you have aspirations to step at a higher level, have a bigger impact, then you have to learn to let somebody else step into the expertise spot, and you do a bit more of the spanning spot.” – Wanda Wallace
“You’ve got to learn to delegate. You have to learn to focus on what really matters. Where’s the high-value, high-impact work that I’m going to do? I’m not going to let that flail or go off the rails.” – Wanda Wallace
“Anybody can learn it. It’s not a matter of being promoted past your level of competence. It’s a matter of being promoted past your level of expertise, and now needing different leadership skills.” – Wanda Wallace
“When you move out of your comfort zone, if you are a normal adult, you will have a sense of imposter syndrome. You’re doing something you haven’t yet mastered. You’re going to feel very nervous about that. That nervous energy is normal. So stop feeling like there’s something wrong with you. It’s normal! It’s a growth step.” – Wanda Wallace
“Planning helps get the brain into proactive performed frontal cortex activity. Taking a deep breath, and calming down the nervous system is another way, and focusing again on how you add value lets you bring that confidence back into play.” – Wanda Wallace
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